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D.: How to train the mind to look within?
M.: By practice.
The mind is the intelligent phase leading to its own destruction, for Self to manifest.
D.: How to destroy the mind?
M.: Water cannot be made dry water. Seek the Self. The mind will be destroyed.
D.: Surrender is impossible.
M.: Yes. Complete surrender is impossible in the beginning. Partial surrender is certainly possible for all.
In course of time that will lead to complete surrender.
Well, if surrender is impossible, what can be done? There is no peace of mind. You are helpless to bring it about. It can be done only by surrender.
Talk 247.
There arose a doubt if ‘I-I’ consciousness be the same as nirvikalpa samadhi or anything anterior to it.
Bhagavan said that the tiny hole in the Heart remains always closed,
but it is opened by vichara
with the result that ‘I-I’ consciousness shines forth.
It is the same as samadhi.
D.: What is the state just before death?
M.: When a person gasps for breath it indicates that the person is unconscious of this body; another body has been held and the person swings to and fro. While gasping there is a more violent gasp at intervals and that indicates the oscillation between the two bodies due to the present attachment not having been completely snapped. I noticed it in the case of my mother and of Palaniswami.
D.: Does the new body involved in that state represent the next reincarnation of the person?
M.: Yes. While gasping the person is in something like a dream, not aware of the present environment. (It must be remembered that Sri Bhagavan had been with His mother from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. until she passed away. He was all along holding her head with one hand, the other hand placed on her bosom. What does it signify? He Himself said later that there was a struggle between Himself and His mother until her spirit reached the Heart.
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Evidently the soul passes through a series of subtle experiences, and Sri Bhagavan’s touch generates a current which turns the soul back from its wandering into the Heart. The samskaras, however, persist and a struggle is kept up between the spiritual force set up by His touch and the innate samskaras, until the latter are entirely destroyed and the soul is led into the Heart to rest in eternal Peace, which is the same as Liberation.
Its entry into the Heart is signified by a peculiar sensation perceptible to the Mahatma - similar to the tinkling of a bell.
When Maharshi attended on Palaniswami on his death-bed, He took away His hand after the above signal. But Palaniswami’s eyes opened immediately, signifying that the spirit had escaped through them, thereby indicating a higher rebirth, but not Liberation.
Having once noticed it with Palaniswami, Maharshi continued touching His mother for a few minutes longer - even after the signal of the soul passing into the Heart - and thus ensured her Liberation. This was confirmed by the look of perfect peace and composure on her features).
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Talk 249.
M.: Ignorance - ajnana - is of two kinds:
(1) Forgetfulness of the Self.
(2) Obstruction to the knowledge of the Self.
Aids are meant for eradicating thoughts:
These thoughts are the re-manifestations of predispositions remaining in seed-form; they give rise to diversity from which all troubles arise.
These aids are: hearing the truth from the master (sravana), etc. The effects of sravana may be immediate and the disciple realises the truth all at once.
This can happen only for the well-advanced disciple.
Otherwise, the disciple feels that he is unable to realise the truth, even after repeatedly hearing it. What is it due to?
Impurities in his mind: ignorance, doubt and wrong identity are the obstacles to be removed.
(a) To remove ignorance completely, he has to hear the truth repeatedly, until his knowledge of the subject-matter becomes perfect.
(b) To remove doubts, he must reflect on what he has heard. Ultimately his knowledge will be free from doubts of any kind.
(c) To remove the wrong identity of the Self with the non-self (such as the body, the senses, the mind or the intellect) his mind must become one-pointed. All these things accomplished, the obstacles are at an end and samadhi results. That is, Peace reigns.
Some say that one should never cease to engage in hearing, reflection and one-pointedness.
These are not fulfilled by reading books, but only by continued practice to keep the mind withdrawn.
The aspirant may be kritopasaka or akritopasaka.
The former is fit to realise the Self, even with the slightest stimulus.
Only some little doubt stands in his way. It is easily removed if he hears the truth once from the Master.
Immediately he gains the samadhi state.
It is presumed that he had already completed sravana, reflection, etc. in previous births, they are no more necessary for him.
For the other all these aids are necessary; for him doubts crop up even after repeated hearing; therefore he must not give up aids until he gains the samadhi state.
Sravana removes the illusion of the Self being one with the body, etc.
Reflection makes it clear that Knowledge is Self.
One pointedness reveals the Self as being Infinite and Blissful.
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What is not permanent is not worth striving for. So I say, the Self is not reached. You are the Self. You are already That. The fact is that you are ignorant of your blissful state.
Ignorance supervenes and draws a veil over the pure Bliss.
Attempts are directed only to remove this ignorance.
This ignorance consists in wrong knowledge. The wrong knowledge consists in the false identification of the Self with the body, the mind, etc. This false identity must go and there remains the Self.
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M.: These are also in the mind. They are there because you have identified yourself with the body. If this false identity drops away, ignorance vanishes and Truth is revealed.
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As for Grace - Grace is within you. If it is external it is useless.
Grace is the Self. You are never out of its operation. Grace is always there.
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D.: How is the mind to dive into the Heart?
M.: The mind now sees itself diversified as the universe. If the diversity is not manifest it remains in its own essence, that is the Heart. Entering the Heart means remaining without distractions.
The Heart is the only Reality.
The mind is only a transient phase.
To remain as one’s Self is to enter the Heart.
Because a man identifies himself with the body he sees the world separate from him. This wrong identification arises because he has lost his moorings and has swerved from his original state. He is now advised to give up all these false ideas, to trace back his source and remain as the Self.
In that state, there are no differences. No questions will arise. All the sastras are meant only to make the man retrace his steps to the original source. He need not gain anything new. He must only give up his false ideas and useless accretions.
Instead of doing it he tries to catch hold of something strange and mysterious because he believes that his happiness lies elsewhere. That is the mistake.
If one remains as the Self there is bliss. Probably he thinks that being quiet does not bring about the state of bliss. That is due to his ignorance. The only practice is to find out “to whom these questions arise.”
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D.: What is the Sun marga? What is the Moon marga? Which of them is easier?
M.: Ravi marga (Sun marga) is jnana. Moon marga is Yoga.
They think that after purifying the 72,000 nadis in the body, sushumna is entered and the mind passes up to the sahasrara and there is nectar trickling. These are all mental concepts.
The man is already overwhelmed by world concepts. Other concepts are now added in the shape of this Yoga.
The object of all these is to rid the man of concepts and to make him inhere as the pure Self - i.e., absolute consciousness, bereft of thoughts! Why not go straight to it?
Why add new encumbrances to the already existing ones?
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