Monday, 30 November 2020

Notes Nov 2020/ Imp-Ramana process

 from feb 2019 notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yk9Yjss1wE


Sant Tukaram 

Once you understand that nothing is true...then there are no worries for you


Inside,,,your mind is calm and quiet

You are in tune with bramha ...you are blessed

when one is completely satisfied..how does he stay?

I'll tell you a secret

with full mind

He remains as a foolish person


outside he lives like a mad man but inside he is always in tune with self

Like the bee only interested in the honey of the flower, He is always thinking of the Self

Inside and outside ...Only Self

Nobody can understand Him or his thinking ..or what He does

Only yogis know the essence in Him


Only those who have the practise of reality ..know the true identity of a saint


For others its an illusion

Saints by their presence give peace to others

the saint stays in bramha

He never goes again in illusion

When you need him the most, he protects you

Your mind has been changed
wrong thoughts go ...and He remains

Then you understand real devotion...always thinking of Him

..and not of yourself


By real devotion you will get every proof of realization

He acquires this world and the other

This is the only truth

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etwXFtweMkA&list=PLNcKRMLMcyzbAvVR46WXVJPlczXNR80xW&index=10

part 2 talks on ramana maharshi lomakayu

1:37


mind purified by nisvartha seva, leading to finding a guru and then ...'Incessantly practicing meditation on the Supreme.'

0:00 even good thoughts should disappear before realisation.

Sattva is real nature of mind. clear like unclouded sky.

by rajas, stirred by activity, M becomes clouded

by tamas, influenced by darkness manifests as the physical world

hence, restless and solid...so truth not discerned.


delicate super fine silk thread cannot be sown by non fine tools:

light of a lamp flickering in the wind

realsn of Truth impossible by M rendered gross by darkness, tamas and restless by activity.

because truth is exceedingly subtle and serene.

M will be purified by nisvarth seva, guru ,,,,,.'Incessantly practicing meditation on the Supreme.'

Then transformation of M into solid tamas inert matter and restlesness rajas will cease.


then M regains it's subtlety , composure

S can manifest only in a M rendered subtle and steady by assiduous meditation.

(tatha kshiyate prakashvarnam)


The one who experiences that bliss is liberated even while being alive.

tiruvachakam

Though i am worse than a dog, you have undertaken to protect me.

god's responsiblity to liberate you. Have faith , that will save you.

grip of ego weakened by not adding new vasanas

4:50

To inhere in one's own being after the ego is dead is the perfect state.


given up one's objective outlook one knows one self.
...And loses all notions of unity or duality...of oneself and the ego.

Idea must go god is different . gudakesha.

7:30

you think you are an individual, outside is the universe, and beyond universe is god, so there is the idea of separateness.
\\ This idea must go.

Eternal truth same as bramha...

to remove obstacles that hamper this realisation = Knowledge

nice definition of knowledge.



Each one has to experience that he is not different from god.


48:40 all age old vasanas turn mind outwards

effortless and choiceless awareness after long and deliberate meditation.

conscious, deliberate effort required to achieve that state of stillness.

when outward...then effort
when inward...impossible to make effort

effort reqd upto the point of realsn. even then the S should spontaneously become evident.
upto that state of spontaneity there must be some effort of some form or another.

when ego ceases , then actions spontaneous.


total surrender without a vestige of individuality.

grace to be found only by effort

Sense of doer = bondage. Not the doing

your desire for grace = grace working in you.

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All suffering due to the false concept ,'I am the Body"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv2KDkTVbFs&list=PLNcKRMLMcyzbAvVR46WXVJPlczXNR80xW&index=12

There is an absolute self from which a spark proceeds as from a fire.
The spark is called the ego.
ignorant man identifies itself simultaneously with it's rise.
He cannot remain independent of such association with objects.

This association = Adnyana

it's destruction = object of our efforts.

If it's objectifying tendency is killed it remains pure.
Also, it merges in it's source.

Wrong denfn w/ body = dehatmabudhi.
This has to go for any good results to transpire.

I in it's purity experienced between intervals of 2 thoughts

ego like caterpillar lets go 1 only after catching another.

it's true nature found when not in contact with objects/ thoughts

This ghostly ego has no form.
comes into existence by grasping a form.

Grasping a form it endures.
feeds on forms it grasps. Thus waxes more and more.
Leaving form it grasps another form.

But when sought for it takes to flight.

ego in form ' I am the body' if that exists, then 2nd and 3rd person exits not otherwise

by searching for truth, 1st person destroyed

2nd, 3rd will cease to exist.
then one's own nature will shine as Self.

where is I?
i destroyed

self knowledge will shine forth\

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sam's notes:

what is to be known is : I is not associated with any thoughts/ ideas/ objects

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only SE direct method for subsiding the M = for self realsn

M outwards indulges in thoughts
inside= Self

that which rises = m

rises from hridaya

first that rises primal i thought

cannot eliminate I . go to its origin. it will vanish

medn is your true nature

men free from thoughts is our real nature

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Talks part 5

0:00


no general rule about method depends on purva sanskar

make M one pointed extinguished at is source


first M control
shouldnt stop there
then 'who am i?'


one pointedness of M = the best posture

48:30 complete surrender = god's will = your will
you shouldn't have a will of our own


complete surrender = another name for dhyana

2 ways
look within i
2nd completely helpless..look up to God

God alone exists. ego doesn't exist. Firm conviction

surrender another name for dhyana or libn

complete surrender difficult in the beginning but partial surrender easy for all

state of realsn = being oneself

55:00 keep on concentrating then it will get as easy as breathing

only with complete surrender god's name is with you continuosly

you are not naam rupa

part 5 ends

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40 verses ulladu narpadu

8:20
to inhere in one's own being when the I or ego is dead is the te state of Self realsn

no individual ever existed. Realise this

loses all notions of unity/ diversity

give up objective outlook. (objects)

use enquiry to dive into C

who is this knower?
does he have a form?
no.

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talk part 6

6:18 owing to fluctuations of vasanas realsn takes time to steady itself.


spasmodic realsn not enough to prevent rebirth.



8:30 he that can abide in the Self should never swerve from his one pointed attn to the Self.
pure being that he is.

if he slips/ serves several kinds of visions maybe seen.

but one should not be misled b such visions.

light, space, nada, visions of personified Gods etc

seeing outwardly as if they had an objective reality.

Should not mistake any of these things for reality

17:30 intoxicated with the nectar of the love of God...beatitude aspect

..and lose themselves in blissful experience.

unwilling to leave this they remain forever merged in god

holding onto reality = samadhi
with effort = savikalpa
merging into reality and remaining unaware of the world = nirvikalpa
merging in ignorance . unaware of the world = sleep

remaining in primal pure natural state without effort = sahaja ns

to seek and abide in the reality that is always attained is the only attainment

all other siddhis as if acquired in dreams

extinction of ego that asks which form is the only true libn

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Self Enquiry practice

1:00 feeling ceases to connect and identify with objects...it completely vanishes

...what remains is ...a state .where the individuality has temporarily ceased to operate.

intermittent at first then easier and easier to maintain.

when se reaches this state there is an effortless aware of being...individual effort not possible...as I has temporarily ceased to exist.

it is not se as i thought periodically re- asserts itself.

repeated experience of this state of being weakens the vasanas and destroys them.
...the mental tendencies to rise...loosens the hold, grasp
power of Self destroys the mental tendencies..then the I thought never rises again

this is the final and irreversible state of self realsn

mano laya temporary
false sense of realsn

period extends by practice ..how long M stays in heart?

efforts must be made to eradiate the vasanas

any form or shape cause of trouble

this knowledge revealed only to C that is silent

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Surrender itself is a mighty prayer.

why doesn't he create the aspiration?
then surrender yourself
if you surrender you must accept the will of God and should not have a grievance.

if you have some trace of individuality still left, then you haven't surrendered as you say

you cannot command him and still believe you have surrendered

shaktipat causes introversion

dhyana bala depth of medn

after God is seen, SE begins and that leads to realsn of Self
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All scriptures: for attaining salvation : M must be subdued. So futile to study scriptures.

actual Enquiry reqd for such interrogation 'who am i?'

one should know the Self by the eye of wisdom.

Self to be realised by summarily rejecting the 5 sheaths

To enquire who am i that is in bondage and to know one's real nature alone is libn.

to keep the M constantly turned within and abide thus in the Self alone = atma vichara = self enquiry.

Dhyana is fervent contemplation of Self or Satchitananda

ego is bound , not S .
ego is non existent

kill ego b surrendering to the lord
saying all the time ' not I but though' ....giving up all sense of I and Mine

..and leaving it to the lord what he likes to do with you.

Surrender can never be considered complete as long as the devotee wants this and that from the Lord.

complete effacement of ego reqd to conquer destiny.

whether you do it thru Se or bhakti

age old vasanas force the M to turn outward.
all these tendencies have to be given up

to turn inward for most people requires effort.

a lot of effort. Could be previous life


effortless choiceless awareness only after deliberate medn

conscious, deliberate effort reqd to attain that state of effortless stillness.

medn = fight repeated practice battle always going on in medn

ego gone, then action spontaneous
m control; not your birth right

till spontaneity, some effort always reqd.

Grace found only by effort

sense of doer, ego goes then s shines forth in all its purity.

sense of being doer = bondage ...not the actions themselves

be still and realise you are god
here, stillness = total surrender without a vestige of individuality

if unripe M doesn't feel god's grace, that doesn't mean it is absent

grace not outside you. the very desire for grace = grace

no individual act of bestowing grace.

subsidence or merging of the M complete, the grace gushes forth

sprouting like a spring within you.


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search for origin of ego. Dive into the heart.
then no need for sushumna, 6 centres etc

when draws the M inwards ...only then complete surrender achieved.

effacement of ego = surrender of Self

clinging to one thought..leads to self absorption..leads to self realsn

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self enquiry part 3 path of sri ramana sadhu om

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2FFXQ0p5Eo

Tattva manas. supremely mature mind which tends only to Self Enquiry and nothing else.

Has reached the pinnacle of Vairagya

When it attended to 2nd, 3rs person ..it was called Mind.
when it gives attention to it's own self, thoughts cease and it is no longer M
it's name as m and form as 'thoughts' are lost.
Naam kay ...tar 'mana'.
form kay ...tara 'vichara'

mixed C ..(i am that etc) is ego

place of rising of ego = place of annihilation of ego....not an experience of a place of the body.

dull intellect...no idea of even a remote understanding paroksha dnyan (intellectual) .....of the Nature of the Self.




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Namdev

1 have restrained the ten organs of sense ; the very name 
of the five evil passions I have erased. 

Having extracted the poison from the seventy-two tanks 
of the heart, I have filled them with ambrosia ; 

I shall not allow the poison to return again. 

The ambrosial word I utter from my heart ; my spirit I 
instruct not to attach itself to worldly things. 

I have destroyed worldly love with an axe of adamant : 
I touch the guru's feet and implore him. 

Turning away from the world, I have become a servant of 
the saints and I fear them. 

I shall be saved from this world the moment I cease to be 
entangled by Maya. 

Maya is the name of the Power which placeth man in the 
womb ; abandoning it I shall obtain a sight of God. 

The man who worshippeth in this way shall be freed from 
all fear. 

Saith Namdev, O man, why wander abroad ? obtain God 
in the way I have told thee. 

(H) 

As water is dear to the traveller in Marwar, and the 



HYMNS 



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creeper to the camel ; 

As the huntsman's bell at night is dear to the hind, so is 
God to my soul — 

Thy name is dear to the earth, as the odour of flowers is dear 
to the bumble-bee ; 

As the mango is dear to the kokil, so is God [to my soul. 

As the sun is dear to the sheldarke, as the lake of 
Mansarowar is dear to the swan ; 

As the husband is dear to the wife, so is God to my soul. 

As milk is dear to the child, as a torrent of rain to the 
mouth of the chatrik ; 

As water is dear to the fish, so is God to my soul. 

All penitents, sidhs, and munis seek God, but few have 
seen Him, 

As Thy name is dear to all creation, so is Vitthal to 
Nama's heart. 

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No aids needed to know one's Self


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SE shall automatially send the kundalini to the heart centre. Separate exercises not reqd.

Self is reached by the search for the origin of the ego.
and by diving into the heart.
this is the direct method of Self realn.

one who can do this need not worry about nadis, kundalini etc.

seek its source or surrender to the supreme power

No one succeeds without patience and perseverance.

mature M will go directly to control of M and not breath

when real nature of kundalini shakti known ...it is called Akhanda kara vritti or unbroken C

or aham sphurana

severing chitta jada granthi
dnyani might not have that aim as a yogi but achieves the same result.

sending K up the sushumna

pundits .. even great ones ...hatha yoga else their minds won't subside.

useful for those who cannot otherwise still the m


asana where can he remain firm? except in his own real state.

space of true knowledge : not swerving from the
attending to the steadiness of not swerving from the base upon which the whole universe rests ...
which is Self
...which is True knowledge

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your open space of C even before your thoughts...your true identity
deathless are they who know the Self

Being and C not 2 separate things...one and the same


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2w9fbhMDW0&t=4s

0.00 Surrender as effective as Self Enquiry


synonymous. only means by which self realn could be achieved.

no individual I who exists or desires

satisfied with what god gives you

complete surrender another name for dnyana

no likes or dislikes after surrender

his will = your will














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